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retief
12-09-20079th December 2007, 08:29 AM
opinion/commentary/whatever you want to call it ;)

First, a touch of background. I used to shoot a D2H, loved the camera, hated the 4mp for small/distant subjects. Many of us were hoping that the successor would maintain the great AF with more MP and better High ISO, in my case I wanted up to ISO 2000. Unfortunately, the next cameras out did not provide this combination, and I move to the D200 for resolution, knowing I would lose some on the AF side. While I have not been totally unhappy, my personal time-frame was something better from Nikon be the end of summer, or a switch to Canon, probably a MkIII with a 40D as backup, would have been in order.

Disclaimer: This is in no way meant to be a definitive, scientific, thorough review of the camera, frankly I'm too darned lazy to do such. These are nought but the ramblings of a mostly deranged bozo with a couple of cameras ;), so take it for what it is worth.

AF performance:

Beats the pants off my D200, and it will take years to figure out when to use all 51 pts, 3D tracking, Auto-Area AF and such. And they look to be VERY happy years, we finally have more AF points than Canon :biglaugh:. I find 2 things to be much better than the D200. The first is that I can aquire a target much faster, I have settled for the moment on 21pt, and the low-light/low-contrast AF is just amazing. I shoot a lot with a couple of friends who both have D2X's as well as recently aquired D300's, and they both say that the AF is superior to the D2X as well. Does the D300 miss sometimes? Sure does, but then it isn't magic and the darned thing still doesn't have the one feature I want and need, focus on what I'm THINKING, not where I'm AIMING ;)

High ISO:

All that I had been told prior to release was to expect 1-1.3 stops better than the D200. This led me to belive that up to ISO 2000 I was going to be very happy. From my own observation, and reports from others, ISO 2500 is a snap, 3200 is quite usable, and frankly I'm amazed at how well ISO 6400 cleans up. Would I use ISO 6400 in any kind of critical situation? Absolutely, if it meant getting a shot I needed or not. Does it take more work than ISO 1600 and below? Yup, but heck, it is ISO 6400 after all.

8 fps:

Oh, I'm happy to get this back again as well ;)

Compared to Other Cameras:

Well, Canon obviously has "led the realm" in ISO performance over the years. Without a doubt at all. Canon has thoroughly annoyed me, and Nikon didn't seem to much care. But now, obviously, Canon will go out of business in the nex 4 weeks, just because of the D3/D300 combo rolleyes;rolleyes;rolleyes; ... NOT! What we do have now, in my opinion, is one heck of an awesome set of cameras from both companies, and hopefully ( yeah right dream on Dewey ) an end to the incessant High ISO Noise debates. Would I switch if I was a Canon shooter already solidly invested in Canon? Tough call, but if I was a MkIII user, I doubt it. For someone new with a 40D, the question would be is the AF and such that much better as to be worth the cost differential, tough call as always.

My Recommendation:

Well, now that I have my 2, I suggest that everyone buy one, as I won't be in line behind you :biglaugh::biglaugh:. But there are, again in my opinions, some real downsides into moving to a D300, but these are the same for many cameras from both companies. If you expect to pick the camera up, shoot in P mode with default settings, you may very well find yourself disappointed. My guess is that well over 85% of the complaints we see about this camera will come from people who do exactly this. We have seen this with many of the cameras, I'm sure it is the same in the Canon world. If you buy something this sophistacted, plan to invest a significant amount of time understanding the settings and what it can do. Even more, understand the limitations. As great as this camera is, the photographer is still "in charge". That being the case, it is up to you to get the best performance out of the camera.

Harv
12-09-20079th December 2007, 08:53 AM
Well said. And this is coming from a Canon man.

Bobby
12-09-20079th December 2007, 08:59 AM
Canon and Nikon both producing superior cameras can't do anything but benefit us, thanks for the working mans review.

David Cramer
12-09-20079th December 2007, 10:20 AM
Canon and Nikon both producing superior cameras can't do anything but benefit us, thanks for the working mans review.

I agree, Bobby. Nikon is NOW finally providing its birders/wildlife shooters with the right tools. Like Bill, I would have switched at this point if the D300 didn't provide the goods. But it does. Unfortunatley, sunny New Mexico has been mostly rainy since I got mine, but then again, it gives me a good chance to shoot with the higher iso numbers. The D300 bests the D200 and D2x in both iso performance and AF. The new focusing system is providing a much higher hit rate. The only thing I've not used is the auto and the 3D setting, both of which seem more appropriate for portraits. I've calibrated the lens/camera combinations for all my teles and tcs. I've loaded up the D2xIII color profile, which I still prefer. The one day I had sun and headed to the Bosque del Apache, I found the 8fps (with grip) to work very well on birds in flight. I'm primarily using 9 point and 21 point, and will experiment more with the 51 points. Pics will follow soon.

Keith
12-09-20079th December 2007, 11:14 AM
Nicely said Bill, best part is you have onein your hands and you are now commited :D Sounds like it was well worth your wait. That has to frustrate D2x users if in fact it has better AF, so if that is the case, I cant wait to see what the potential of a D3x is :D Glad to see Nikon delivering, its good for all camera users when each company can push the envelope!

retief
12-09-20079th December 2007, 02:01 PM
Thanks, all. I get so darned frustrated with all the "spec-peepers" and "pixel-peeprs" who spout their opinions as if somehow they are "fact", at least I have the decency to say right up front that I have no clue what I'm doing :biglaugh:

Nicely said Bill, best part is you have onein your hands and you are now commited :D Sounds like it was well worth your wait. That has to frustrate D2x users if in fact it has better AF, so if that is the case, I cant wait to see what the potential of a D3x is :D Glad to see Nikon delivering, its good for all camera users when each company can push the envelope!

Keith, I don't see any reason that any D2X(s) user should be frustrated, this is nothing more than the march of progress. Sure, some who recently purchased will be annoyed, and I can tell you I was one annoyed puppy when the D2H price was slashed by $1300 here in the US, but such is life. I don't think you will ever see a D3X, I think the X/H designation is now a thing of the past. Wouldn't surprse me though to see a more "pixel-packed" D3-type, and a FF D300 type at some point in the future, have to keep up with Canon you know :biglaugh:

Jim Thiel
12-09-20079th December 2007, 04:56 PM
I agree with Bill and David, having shot this camera now for the past two weeks in good light and in bad. I have been shooting the D2X for the past three years. I have been very happy with it but have also been frustrated with not being able to shoot higher ISO and some focus tracking issues. The D300 seems to solve both these issues.

I like the colors much better from the D2X than the D300 and will use the same settings as David has stated. I will sure not get rid of my D2X either as I will now use it as my birding backup camera and will use it for landscape work.

I also agree that we all benefit by the advances between Canon and Nikon both from features and price. The issue now becomes how good the person behind the camera is. Well that has really always been the case now hasn't it?

For me the problem is what do I do now when I miss a shot like I did yesterday? I really can't blame the camera so now I will have to take the blame myself. Oh no.

Mao
02-18-200818th February 2008, 07:27 PM
Right on Bill! I have no brand loyalty, whatever works best for me is the way I go.

I love my 1DMKIII, I love my D300 and D3. Each one serves its own purpose.

Jeff M
02-18-200818th February 2008, 10:31 PM
Bill is absolutely correct about spending some time to learn this camera. It is a very sophisticated machine, capable of fantastic results. I'm still trying to study and learn all the settings.

It took me awhile to learn the MKIIn, but after I did, the results were worth the time invested.