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Keith
02-25-200725th February 2007, 06:33 PM
I thought this would be a great article for all of you to read especially those who luv to print. I was of the same belief, and now my opinion has changed!

Testing your printer's resolution

There has been a lot of talk lately on the web questioning the rationale for sending more than about 240 - 300 PPI to a printer. Some argue that sending more than about 240 PPI does not improve prints and also question whether the unaided eye can see more than 240 PPI even if it improves printed results. Others cite studies based on human visual acuity and try to equate results of tests related to the human eye directly to print DPI, often ignoring issues such as Nyquist frequency, aliasing, and other important aspects that affect print quality and resolution. Many of the "studies" that come to such conclusions are based on poorly chosen mathematically derived test charts or photos that don't contain enough detail or original data to properly test printer resolution limits. It's difficult to test printer resolution when, for example, you print a 10x8 print from a 6 MP camera where you only have about 300 PPI of data to start with since interpolating to 600 or 720 PPI will result in only subtle differences when compared to simply printing the original 240-300 PPI image. Print a 4x6 or even a 5x7 where you are starting with more than 300 PPI of detail in the original image, and differences in print quality go from subtle to obvious. As cameras break the 8 MP barrier and beyond, the size at which detail above 240-300 PPI can be realized and easily detected in print will increase, allowing detail far beyond 300 PPI to be resolved even at 8x10 and larger print sizes.

Take the Qimage challenge, I just did this yesterday and I was amazed at the results at 600dpi which is Canons native resolution.

Read here and the test sheet is available for Epson 720 dpi and Canon 600 dpi. If you dont own Qimage, there is a 30 day free trial. Just got my new Canon printer and quite impressed. Hence all the reading on printing lately, best half hour you will spend :)

http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/quality/

Jeff JTPhoto
02-25-200725th February 2007, 10:19 PM
Great info Keith, thanks. As I suspected. I never reduce dpi on images to 300, only increase the dpi to 300 when required for enlargements.
Which printer did you get Keith? Did you find an i9900?

Harv
02-26-200726th February 2007, 04:59 AM
Keith, which version of Qimage do you use? Lite? Pro? Studio?

Keith
02-26-200726th February 2007, 08:30 AM
I use the Pro version Harvey :)

Keith, which version of Qimage do you use? Lite? Pro? Studio?

Jeff JTPhoto
02-26-200726th February 2007, 08:38 AM
OK.. Guys I need some info. I haven't used Qimage for about 3 years because I found no difference in the print quality/capabilities between that and PhotoShop. So what is it about Qimage that folks like so much? I just found it to be another program and another workflow step that I had to go through for no gains.

BTW... I am currently printing from 16bit RAW or PSD files not converted JPEGs or TIFFs.

Thanks

Keith
02-26-200726th February 2007, 08:45 AM
then if you were ever to use this program again you need studio for 16 bit files. Jeff, the link I provided up top will answer those questions. I only brought this up as you can see because I stumbled across the value of interpolating even smaller files based on the cameras and printers we have as of today, and we are not maximizing what it offers, I didnt believe it myself until I took this challenge and did the test chart which was incredible, then took it a step further and reprinted a few of my favourite shots that I had already printed and it is definitely noticeable at 600dpi. the key here for any printing is to have a calibrated monitor and printer profile. I have tried paper profiles but nothing has been better since I got my prints profiled, I used "Cathys Profiles" and worth every penny :)

BTW there is another Qimage thread in here that states why we like this program, go take a peek


OK.. Guys I need some info. I haven't used Qimage for about 3 years because I found no difference in the print quality/capabilities between that and PhotoShop. So what is it about Qimage that folks like so much? I just found it to be another program and another workflow step that I had to go through for no gains.

BTW... I am currently printing from 16bit RAW or PSD files not converted JPEGs or TIFFs.

Thanks

Jeff JTPhoto
02-26-200726th February 2007, 08:54 AM
Thanks Keith I'll go check it out..

netsoul
02-26-200726th February 2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks Keith, I will get back to this. I really have noticed a difference in my prints since I got the Canon Pro9000. I'll have to do the dpi test! As it is now I only print at around 200 dpi's.

Now I have a question, if you increase the dpis to 600, how long does it take to print, and how small is the photo? That part I don't get. I print 11x14's most the time. So if I change it to lets say 400dpi's will the size of the image be smaller? thanks...I realize I have alot to learn....:swoon:

Keith
02-26-200726th February 2007, 10:24 PM
the 600 dpi for canon printers is created through interpolation, not through the sizing of a picture as their is no dpi in cropping per say. The DPI is created in the print driver information that is transfered at the time you are requesting to print an image. Hope that make sense.


Yes from a timing perspective, it takes a bit to spool, but its not bad and worth the extra minute to make the most out of that 11x14 print :)


than Thanks Keith, I will get back to this. I really have noticed a difference in my prints since I got the Canon Pro9000. I'll have to do the dpi test! As it is now I only print at around 200 dpi's.

Now I have a question, if you increase the dpis to 600, how long does it take to print, and how small is the photo? That part I don't get. I print 11x14's most the time. So if I change it to lets say 400dpi's will the size of the image be smaller? thanks...I realize I have alot to learn....:swoon:

netsoul
02-26-200726th February 2007, 11:16 PM
Thanx for the info, I am also thinking I should buy Qimage, as the canon printer, from what I was told, will only print longer than 23.6in. if you have a software like Qimage to direct the printer to do that. I saw in a post that someone got a 50in. pano with the canon. And yet the book states 23in. the max. Have you heard anything like that? I usually do the printing thru basic windows and no program other than the printer preferences. Qimage seems to have alot of options even for size. I like that!