New Pentax - K10D

[imageswest]

Am I the only one intrigued by the recently-announced Pentax K10D? It looks like a great little camera, particularly from the ergonomics perspective. Those new Limited "pancake" lenses (21mm, 40mm, 70mm) look pretty sweet, too! bouncy;

If Pentax had a complete lens system (sadly, they discontinued almost all of their lens line recently) and decent service (it's all been farmed out to local mom-and-pop repair shops here in Canada) they could be a real competitor. :rolleyes:

[Kevin]

I was also intrigued by this new offering from Pentax. I don't really know much about Pentax but some photogs I know sang their MF praises. Wonder how it'll be as a dSLR?

Cliff, what do you mean about their lenses? Out of curiousity, I checked B&H and it seemed they have quite a few...up to even a 600/f4. I didn't notice a 70-200 type zoom though. Interesting looking lenses, though. :)

[imageswest]

Cliff, what do you mean about their lenses? Out of curiousity, I checked B&H and it seemed they have quite a few...up to even a 600/f4. I didn't notice a 70-200 type zoom though. Interesting looking lenses, though. :)

Unfortunately, almost all of the lenses that B&H shows as "Out of Stock" or "Accepting Orders", etc. have been discontinued. :o

The longest focal length prime lens they offer now is a 100mm f2.8 macro, and the longest lens of any kind is a cheapo 55-200 zoom. They have announced some interessting new zoom lens designs, but they won't hit the market until the middle of next year. Still no 300mm/400mm/600mm offerings on the horizon, either.

Pentax made an AF 250-600mm f5.6 EDIF zoom that might have made a nice bird and wildlife lens, especially on a new DSLR body with the 1.5 crop factor and anti-shake mode... :rolleyes:

[txbonds]

Cliff & Kevin,

I'll try to offer some perspective on this in a few days, as I just ordered a K10D with 18-55 kit lens, and a sandisk 2gig memory card. Should get it Friday if it makes it out today. I cashed out pretty much about 95% of my gear over the last week to cover a ton of dental costs without robbing my savings account, and have enough money left over for a basic camera kit for family and travel pics. I should have enough to also pick up one or two small prime lenses.

Will keep you posted, but over all in the $1k range, the K10D seemed to have the most to offer over the other comparible bodies.

[imageswest]

In terms of features and ergonomics, the K10D looks like a real winner... and from some of sample images floating around the internet, the image quality might be a step up on the rest of the 10 megapixel competition, too.

What's cooled my enthusiasm for it, is learning that Pentax Canada no longer offers repair services of any sort - it's all farmed out to local "mom and pop" operations. Our local authorized Pentax repair centre doesn't work on digital cameras (at least that's the reason they gave me for not being able to service my Pnetax 67 II... :confused_1: ).

It sounds like Pentax USA still offers pretty good service from their Colorado facility, but having to ship cameras and gear across the border isn't terrible convenient (and Pentax USA may not service Pentax Canada gear anyway...)

[txbonds]

I hear ya. If I was a working pro, I would never have switched, but given my hobbiest status, and my apparent like of trying gear, it wasn't a big deal to give it a try.

And, to be honest, if I wasn't faced with the possible prospect that we might be relocating in the next month or so, and not knowing what expenses that may create, I'd have just kept the investment I had in canon gear and robbed my savings account for the dental work. But, the situation being what it is, I figured I'm better off having the cash, and selling all of my gear basically funded all my dental work, and allows me to spend about $1500 to $2k on a replacement system. So, as it stands now, that will be a K10d with kit lens, 2 gig card and a 77mm f1.8 prime. If it doesn't meet my expectations, there's always FM or Ebay. :)

Will report back after a few days of use, so most likely over the weekend.

EDIT - Actually I decided to go with the 70mm f2.4 pancake prime instead of the 77 f1.8 due to the significant size and weight reduction. If it doesn't meet with great review, I can always send it back for the 77, as it is a known performer, but the 70 is so new I just can't find much on it. I love having a light weight kit though, and the though of eventually having a 21 pancake and 70 pancake seems appealing for some reason.

[MichiganMan]

I thought about the Pentax line. I agree with whoever that their biggest killer for me is the lack of a line of lenses. They have a bunch of short zooms and/or primes, but lack a lot in the medium to longer stuff. Could get Sigmas to fill their gaps but if they don't care to have lenses in certain ranges, why would I care to get into a system that doesn't have answers for me?

No doubt their 10D body is good and has been sought after by a lot of folks. But that isn't all there is to a "system". The Sigma Foveon system has a much better lineup. So does the Sony system. Pentax, sadly, looked last in the total solution department to me, but might be way up there for others.

[txbonds]

I think the problem is that they have a line of new lenses set to come out but probably won’t hit until next year. For me, I’m mainly using the short lenses anyway, so it’s not a big deal to wait. However, if I was spending as much time out looking for birds as I did a year ago, then it would be canon or Nikon without a doubt. Right now, I honestly wanted to get just a good point and shoot, but couldn’t find one that I could make myself happy with, so I’m sort of doing that with this pentax setup. Bigger than a point and shoot no doubt, but offering me a good deal of high end features, with some small lenses to bring the weight back down. Who knows though, I wouldn't suggest anyone make system decisions based on my camera buying as my mood for systems changes by the week sometimes.

[Kevin]

Well, I for one am anxious to hear your thoughts once you've received it and have shot with it. I'm also interested in seeing the results. Please keep us posted.

[Rudi]

Greg, I am also interested in how you get on with the Pentax K10D.

Pentax have a habit of doing this - for several years now, pretty much since the advent of autofocus SLR cameras, they have been wandering (apparently blindly) in the dark forest. They have made some superb cameras from time to time, models good enough to compete with the best that Canon and Nikon had to offer (back in the film days), but it was always a one-off, and was never followed up or supported by a well thought-out line up of lenses and other accessories.

It is a shame - the old manual focus Pentax lenses that I used with my K-1000 (bought second-hand for a song) were some of the best 35mm SLR lenses that I have used. Pentax make great lenses - it's just not a full-blown system, IMO.

I'd love to play with a K10D and a couple of lenses, but then I'll play with any camera I can get my hands on... :D

[txbonds]

I'll definately report back after getting it. My understanding is that there is a camera coming that will be above the K10d, as well as there are numerous SSM (USM/AFS) style lenses coming in the next few months. The K10D is built to support SSM, so it stands to make sense. Nice thing on the K10D is that is supports the older pentax lenses.

I'm looking forward to it. I really enjoyed the Minolta 7d I owned, but like you mentioned Minolta never could get their act together, and products could never be found in stock. Plus the 7d was riddled with problems. So, if pentax has their act together on this camera, and indeed does come out with the reported lenses and higher grade body, it may make a surprising impact in the market.

[txbonds]

I'll tell ya, I'm a bit nervous about getting the camera today. My biggest fear is that it will be riddled with problems, like focus problems or banding. I've been down that road before, and if that is the case this one will go back in favor of something more common, but my fingers are crossed.

Both the camera with kit lens, as well as the 70mm pancake show they are out for delivery today. Camera coming from 17street photo and pancake coming from B&H. Both have return policies long enough though that I feel comfortable I can try the camera out and return if it has problems.

The sensor on the other hand, should produce shots similar to the D200 or D80 given its origin.

We will see I guess, but as it stands I'm nervous about trying it. :wacko:

[Rudi]

It's most probably going to be flawless in all respects! Please let us know your experiences AND post some photos - no matter how boring you think they are - I am genuinely interested in seeing how the Pentax performs.

Good luck! :)

[txbonds]

Yeah, you are probably right. I've seen some wonderful pics from the pentax line, especially from the "limited" lenses. I'm going to give the da-70 a try, and provided there are no problems with the camera itself, then try to compare those pics to the ones I've found from the FA-77. I started to get the 77, but at the last minute changed to the 70 to shave the weight and size down quite a bit. However, the 77 produces some awesome portraits from what I've found. Just couldn't find anything worthwhile from the 70 pancake yet.

Hopefully I'll be able to snap some stuff today to post if UPS shows up soon enough. I think one package shows regular overnight, but the camera I believe shows overnight saver, so it may be tonight before it shows up. Sort of sucky too because again it is keeping me from going to check out the laptops that might be on sale.

On the better front though, I go in Tuesday and Wednesday of next week for the continuing phases of my dental work that prompted the liquidation of my camera gear. I've been able to cover phase 1, and should be able to cover phase 2 without touching savings, which is about $3500 of the $4k estimate, so that's cool. And I still had enough money left over to get the pentax setup.

Fingers crossed
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Rudi]

Greg, you sold the 5D, right? It would definitely interest me what you think of the Pentax, since the 5D is the sweetest digital Canon (digital *anything*) that I have ever used. Anyway, good luck, hope you get the whole package today, so you can start playing... :D

[Kevin]

Greg, I wouldn't be too nervous. I'm sure the new Pentax is going to produce great files. I'd just relax and enjoy it and not stress over the little things.

[txbonds]

Rudi,

I did sell the 5d. In fact, I've sold everything I had regarding my SLR gear except a lowepro compu trekker rolling bag, a kenko 58-77 step ring and a lowepro slinger 200. I even sold my 3 compact flash cards.

Anyway in the past I've owned and used Minolta 7d's, Nikon D200, D2H, & D70, and Canon 20d, 30d & 5d. I've used the D2X, but didn't buy it. Out of all those cameras I owned, the 5d and D200 are obviously the best of the best. That said, if the Minolta line had stayed around, I think the 7d or its successor though had the potential to be a real winner. That camera used the same sony style sensors that nikon uses, but had the bennefit of many minolta innovations. The built in stabilzation is nice.

From that perspective, I think the pentax line has great potential. They are getting to create themselves from new right now, which is not something many of the other brands can say. Even sony is just a rebadged hodge podge of what minolta had with a few zies lenses thrown in. They didn't really start from scratch.

So, unless pentax really fumbles, they could wind up with a nice little line. Never a real threat for the nikon/canon crowd in my opinion, but a nice little specialty line. Sort of what oly could be if they built a better 1 series camera to go with their awesome lenses.

The pentax all digital lens line, their fine limited primes, and the announced new lenses with SSM and seals could make them a small but good alternative. Its very ironic but I'd have to swear that many of their lenses are tokina deriviatives given line similarities, but not surprising because minolta relied on tamron for many lenses too.

I'll be interested to see what comes of the rumored pentax that is supposed to be a step up from the k10d also. Just never know where a company may go that has the benefit of defining itself and its system and line while it puts each product out and also has the benefit of looking at the competitors line for features and comparison while they do so.

Could be an interesting little alternative, or it could flop and go south with Minolta. :err:

[Rudi]

Yeah, well, luckily for you it's not a major investment! And I agree that Pentax has the potential to be THE niche brand in DSLRs (but so did Olympus and Minolta before them, and they threw it away!). We'll just have to see what happens... :)

[txbonds]

Agreed. But for me, the deciding factor won't be the what if's that could come down the road as much as how the camera itself performs. If I get D200ish like pictures out of the sensor, then I'll probably be happy with it. Also, if I have as much success with their limited primes as the photo's I've found posted, I'll be happy. :)

But, like we've both said, we will see what happens.


Yeah, well, luckily for you it's not a major investment! And I agree that Pentax has the potential to be THE niche brand in DSLRs (but so did Olympus and Minolta before them, and they threw it away!). We'll just have to see what happens... :)

[Rudi]

Oh, don't get me wrong, Greg., I am agreeing with you! :) In your case, it seems like a good idea to take the punt on Pentax (and the K10D was the first Pentax to make me sit up and pay notice in a LONG time...)

[txbonds]

The battery is charging. :biggrin:


All I can so so far is that I'm impressed with the attention to detail. From the black box and packing, to the attention to detail put into the K10D itself, so far it looks great. It's definately smaller than the 5d was, and I think smaller than my D200 was, but right now at this point in life I like the smaller size. The shutter button with power switch reminds me of a feature I liked on nikon.

The kit lens is very small, as most 18-55 kit lenses are, but it feels much better built than the kit lens with canon. Over all fit and finish seems nice. I think the weight is about 5 ounces lighter than the D200 without battery, but don't quote me on that. That equates to another lens worth of weight, which is nice.

The DA/70mm pancake lens is unbelievable looking. I can't believe how small it is. It is extremely well made from aluminum, and is just a joy to inspect. I can't wait to try it. If it works half as well as it looks, it will be a keeper. It just makes me want the 21 and 40 that much quicker.

Over all, thats all I have so far. I can say that the size of this gear makes my Lowepro Slinger 200 look way too big. They did send me a cheapy pentax shoulder bag, but as much as I'm poking fun at it, it may be more appropriate for the size of this setup. I like the slinger, but will have to wait to see what gear I accumulate as it may grow into it.

The DA/70 pancake is in a very remote way very leica'ish just because it is so small and light. I imagine a set of the 3 pancakes would be similar to the lenses I use to have for 35mm film 25 years ago, but with autofocus and modern coatings and design. If only they had wider aperatures. If they could ahve made all 3 with f1.4 aperatures, they would probably be impossible to get your hands on due to demand. :biggrin:


More to follow after the battery charges. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Rudi]

Come on, charge already! whip; This is worse than dial-up! :downloading: :D:D:D

[txbonds]

hehehe................

Sorry, it finished and I took a few shots, but haven't downloaded any. I went to the movies and out for the afternoon.

Further observations so far:

The sound is very different than the 5d or d200. Sounds like a long drawn out shutter sound. Reminds me of the old cheapy slrs from walmart, like the entry level minolta or something. The flash seems to work well, but it definately is limited on power. Great for mild fill effect, but I'll really need an add on flash for anything else. The control layout takes some getting used to, but it seems pretty intuitive and easy. There is a dial on the back that reminds me of the canon wheel and I keep wanting to spin it, but it doesn't work that way. Instead it is a 3 position switch, with a 4 way rocker in the middle.

The build is just about as small as I think I could comfortably hold. If I was going to have to shoot this thing aggressively all day long, I'd probably have to look at something bigger like the d200 or 5d. However, for my current lifestyle which is travel shooting, family shots and just casual usage, the size and weight are nice. Heck with the 70 pancake attached, the whole thing barely weighs more than the d200 body alone, so that is nice.

Coming from the 5d, the pictures are a little more grainy that I was prepared for, but honestly not much different than the nikon files. The d200 noise might be a tiny bit smoother, but not much really. The modes are nice also, in that you can set the camera manually for aperature and shutter, and let it adjust the iso within a range to expose properly. Not sure if I'll use this feature much, but nice to have for some usage.

Honestly, I'm in a bit of culture shock after leaving the 5d, as it is no comparison, but I don't know many cameras that are. I'll try to get some pictures posted tonight or tomorrow, but so far I think it is looking good for this little camera. I'd love to have some SSM lenses for it though, as screw drive lenses are a little sluggish.

I'll update again after some more use.

[Rudi]

Thank you, Greg, for that little fix. I can wait for more now... :)

[Jeff M]

The Pentax K10D looks like an interesting camera. My very first SLR was a Pentax Super Program. I also used a Pentax K1000, and later an LX (that had shutter problems)
After AF came along, eventually I wound up with EOS, and after a photography hiatus...ended up again with EOS digital.
I like Pentax, never had a issue with their quality..always top notch. Superb optical quality on lenses. My only quibble...the high prices of faster lenses. Pretty close to Nikon but higher then Canons. (look at 300 f/2.8)
However, I would not even consider switching now..I'm very happy with Canon.
That said, I hope Pentax really gets into the advanced/pro DSLR market in a big way. More competition is great for us Canon/Nikon users.

[txbonds]

I agree. I was looking again at Oly's lens lineup, and honestly if they could develop a new 1 series camera with the 3/4 sensor that had quality equal to that of nikon or canon, they would be on fire. Looking at some of their lenses, like an equivalent lens to 70-200 with f2.0 and a equivalent 300 f2.0............ just crazy stuff.

If oly and pentax could keep it going, and leica and sony keep producing, it will keep nikon and canon on their toes a little more. :)

[Rudi]

OK, I don't want to start a brand war here, so please take this question in the spirit that it's offered (I actually want to know the answer! :D): Is it me, or is the Nikon file the worst of the lot? It looks very noisy to me (but it's hard to judge from a web-sized image)...

I quite like the Pentax file! The ISO 100 image from the 5D is REALLY nice, too...

Any chance of 100% crops from the Pentax? (I will not buy this camera, I will not buy this camera....) :D :D :D

[txbonds]

OK, I don't want to start a brand war here, so please take this question in the spirit that it's offered (I actually want to know the answer! :D): Is it me, or is the Nikon file the worst of the lot? It looks very noisy to me (but it's hard to judge from a web-sized image)...

I quite like the Pentax file! The ISO 100 image from the 5D is REALLY nice, too...

Any chance of 100% crops from the Pentax? (I will not buy this camera, I will not buy this camera....) :D :D :D

Probaby just my fault on the d200 picture, but it was the only one I could find that wasn't taken at ISO100. Apparently I really shot everything at ISO 100 when I had the D200. :)

Just hold steady, I'll be posting some more K10D non flash pics in a few minutes then they finish downloading using various ISO's for further comparison.

However, seeing these side by side, it makes me think how I miss that 5d. It is just unreal looking at the lack of noise in them. I can get another one some day...... I can get another one some day...... :wideeyed:

[txbonds]

From looking at it, I'm not sure if that's vertical banding I'm seeing in the ISO 1600 shots or not. Could just be the noise pattern in the brown leather, but doesn't look great.

ISO 1100 looks a little better and more usable but still a little bit of that funny noise pattern in the brown leather there too.

ISO 800 and below seem about on par with nikon I think.

And the shot into the light shows definate CA and fringing. It's green CA though.

A faster lens would possible have helped too to get more light on the sensor, but the f2.4 70mm is the fastest I've got right now. These could probably be cleaned up some with some basic noise reduction run on them, and with some USM sharpening. Plus, you could always stop the lens down a little from wide open to help crispen them up. There is also fill flash.


Now, how do I feel about the camera so far? The jury is still out. Like some things, not sure about others. I'll have to give it another few days of shots in varied situations to see how it handles over all. I think we knew to begin with that this wasn't going to be a 5d in low light.................

[Rudi]

I can definitely see that the images get much cleaner as the ISO drops. That said, give it a little time... I have always found that my cameras start taking better pictures as they get older - go figure! ;) I think once you know the camera, you take it by the scruff of the neck and make it do what you want it to do. Things like noise will become unimportant (and you may work around them in some situations). And then there is always Noise Ninja... :D

[Kevin]

Greg, on your post #30, I'm not seeing any images, just the exif details. ??

[txbonds]

Greg, on your post #30, I'm not seeing any images, just the exif details. ??


Sorry, I took them down. I'll get them reuploaded to smugmug and provide a link to the directory. I had posted them on dpreview and wanted to take them off, so I had to delete them from smugmug. Unfortunately, the folks over at dpreview pentax forum don't want to hear anything that isn't "positive" regarding the camera, even though talk and complaint of problems is what will get pentax to issue fixes.

[txbonds]

Okay, I have another batch being processed. Took the camera with 70mm out for the afternoon and to a late lunch. Will post the pics or a link as soon as I have them uploaded.

Also picked up two more sandisk SD cards. Found 2 gig ultra II cards for $39 without having to hassle with rebate as part of the holiday sales at compusa. :)

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[txbonds]

Well, I've decided to keep the K10d for a while. I just placed the following post on dpreview so rather than retype something similar, here is my reasoning:

Just wanted to offer a follow up that I've decided to keep the camera. In general usage, taking almost 150 shots now, I've only had the problem be an issue for me so far on extreme dark shots with ISO 1100 and 1600.

I've seen posts from people that have experienced it at much lower ISO's, but as far as I can tell I haven't. I have had much more CA, both magenta and green than I'd have hoped for, but you have that to a certain extent with most brand lenses.

All in all, my favorite camera to date has been the canon 5d, and in a different life I probably would have kept my 5d. The D200 would probably run a close second in tie with this new K10D. My reasons for not keeping the D200 were to get a dream camera setup based on the Canon 5d, but I sold the entire setup to cover some dental expenses. That being said, the budget left over afforded me enough to buy a camera like the K10d or D80 and a few lenses.

My reason for choosing the K10d honestly had nothing to do with the camera itself as much as it did the limited lenses. Lately I keep finding that every ounce of weight I can find a weight to shed without sacrificing quality too much is a wonderful thing. The K10D with a pancake lens on it doesn't weigh much more than a D200.

So, long story short, I'm putting my faith into the fact that with some more experience using the pentax software, and with 3rd party processors picking up the converters for the K10d, as well as possible upgrades with the firmware, that any issues will be minimized or fixed. Other than with the Canon 5d, my shots tend to stay within 100 to 400 ISO anyway. The 5d is the first camera that had me shooting regularly without flash at ISO 1200 and above.

So, please anyone that might have put any weight into my earlier post showing some vertical noise like banding, also weigh with a grain of salt that I decided to stick with the camera for the time being.

[txbonds]

Still enjoying the K10D, but honestly haven't gotten to use it much. As noted in another thread, I just got a new job and will be moving soon, so life has been hectic to say the least. Hopefully once we are settled in I'll get back to normal with my photo hobby.

So far though, it seems to be a great camera for my needs.

[Kevin]

The review of the K10D is out on dpr in case any one's interested. Still looks like a spiffy camera, if you ask me. Sounds like they're not 100% certain the origin of the sensor.

[imageswest]

The review of the K10D is out on dpr in case any one's interested. Still looks like a spiffy camera, if you ask me. Sounds like they're not 100% certain the origin of the sensor.

It's the same Sony sensor that the Nikon D80/D200 and the Sony Alpha 100 are using.

[Bobby]

I have a buddy who has recently purchased the K10d and is currently wringing it out. I am hoping he joins the forum so he can offer some insights on the latest Pentax offering. So far he quite likes it.

[Kevin]

From dpr:

Interestingly this CCD has slightly different specifications than the Sony unit used in a few other ten megapixel digital SLR's so we can't be sure of its origins. It's 23.5 x 15.7 mm with 10.75 million total pixels, 2-channel read-out.

[Rudi]

Hmmm.... it's only JUST worthy of the Highly Recommended DPR rating - that does not sound as good as what I was hoping for from Pentax... ;(

[Kevin]

But in reading through the Cons on the Conclusion page, the list doesn't seem that bad. The sharpness thing seems to be the biggest issue but he acknowledges it's avoidable by shooting RAW. It sounds like that could be remedied by a firmware upgrade.

Not sure why I'm so interested as I'm not planning to switch but for some reason, this little camera holds some intrigue.

[Rudi]

It's funny, Kevin, I'm the same. Or was, I should say. I went into a camera store yesterday, and played with a K10D, and ... well... the love affair is over!

I tried the K10D, had a play with the Sony Alpha, looked at the the Nikons (why not? :)), and walked away disappointed. There was nothing in the store that felt better (or made better pictures) than my 5D! Now, granted, with experience the pictures would get better when using a new camera, but none of the cameras felt better in my hands than the 5D! Considering that it takes beautiful high ISO images, I'll hang on to it for a while longer! :D

It was only disappointing because I like to play with things I cannot afford (in the camera stores, anyway :D), and as it turns out, there is nothing to tempt me at the moment (other than more Canon L lenses)...

[txbonds]

Phil from dpr seems to really be getting it from the pentax slr forum over that review and the "just" recommended score. Personally, I liked the camera before the review and didn't really need a review to tell me it worked for my needs and within my budget. However, as we are moving and in the process of trying to sell our house, it will be a while until I can buy more gear.

So, I'll get plenty of time to learn this K10d while we wait for our home to sell.

[Ron Lacey]

I had my hands on one of these last week and was impressed with the build quality and feel inspite of it being a plastic body. I am surprised at the lack of lenses available from Pentax or Samsung (the GX-10 is a clone of the 10D). My first SLR was a Pentax spotmatic and back in the day Pentax had a lens line up as complete as any. I think most of the Sigma lenses come in a Pentax mount. Feature wise the 10D blows away anything in this price range plus it's weather sealed.

Ron

[Bobby]

Joe should be the one responding to this post. He purchased the Pentax and then found out he would be able to get any decent glass for it for months, nothing from Sigma or pentax. As a result he returned it and is now using a 30D. Very disappointing to my mind that a camera would be released with no lens support.

[Rudi]

They've been wondering through the forest aimlessly for years now... ;( I wonder if the promised lenses actually make it to production - they haven't done so during the previous Pentax "revivals"... rolleyes;

[txbonds]

I hope the lenses make it to production because the SSM pentax versions of the 16-50 f2.8, 50-135 f2.8 and 60-250f4 are all reasons I decided to hang onto my K10D.

Right now I still only have the kit lens and a 70mm pancake, but quite honestly I haven't been using the camera much the last 2 months so I haven't had time to get wonky about it either.

However, if the touted lenses don't materialize in the next 2 or 3 months, I'll have to start thinking about other cameras again I guess.



PS - sorry for my forum absence. New job, move and all I've been overwhelmed with everything. I'll try to start checking in more often now. :brows:

[Kevin]

GREG!!! How the heck are you? We are you living now? Glad to see you back posting.

[imageswest]

They've been wondering through the forest aimlessly for years now... ;( I wonder if the promised lenses actually make it to production - they haven't done so during the previous Pentax "revivals"... rolleyes;

Same thing with the 645 DSLR they've been announcing and re-announcing for several years now... too bad, really. ;(

[txbonds]

GREG!!! How the heck are you? We are you living now? Glad to see you back posting.

Thanks Kevin.

I'm up in Tallahassee area now. Not a huge move, but still a 400 mile northward move from SW Florida.

Anyone want to buy a condo? hehehe Still trying to sell our place in SW Florida.

I did see that Pentax confirmed the new lenses today via dpreview, so that's a positive sign.

[Jerry]

Hi Greg, just to let ya know " you are no longer alone" another Pentaxian has joined the site LoL I love my K10, warts and all. Will be watching the posts to see if your still posting here, or if there are any others (+: Take care