New Nikon Body!

[Charlemagne]

Okay.. you all well know that I am a Canon user (as are most normal people..:biggrin: ) But... I was going to post this on Dpreview, but thought better of it, so please don't link this over there.. they are waaayyyy to many A'hoes... anyways, a friend of mine called me up today and told me a strange story, he saw a friend of ours (who will remain nameless because he is a very popular photographer) at a shoot at a local pier on a beach near here, now this photog is a guy the stars and top models go to here in south florida, all the big name catalogs use him also (I probably already gave him away with that.. LOL). So, they start talking and my friend noticed his camera looked.. different.. so basically he told him that he was trying out a new body, that he was one of the "select few testers". Now this guy didn't give too many specifics, but he let him try it out a little, and my friend (who some of you who came down this year and met me to shoot know as "Frankenstein") said that the viewfinder was HUGE and bright, said it reminded him of my 5D.. so... I asked him was he sure it wansn't any of the other nikon bodies, I started naming them and he said NO to all of them, he said this one felt really good, was super fast (FPS) and I asked him if he was SURE it wasn't any of the other nikon bodies and in Canon user fashion he said "didn't I already say it felt GOOD to hold!" :biglaugh: I asked him if there were any markings on the camera and he said it was all taped and there was not even the "NIKON" logo at the top, so I think either our friend is messing with us, because he shoots nikon..LOL, or he is actually testing something.. I will try to pry more info out of him (the tester not my friend "Frankenstein") and feed you guys.. normally I wouldn't really care, but I was a little depressed with nothing released from Nikon at the last show (damn Canon put a HIGH price on that MkIII!) but I also wanted you Nikonians to know.. something is on the way.. I will look into it more, but I think this is pretty reliable (even though Frankenstein isn't the sharpest pencil in the box). I will get back to you all!! Please again.. don't link this.. this is just for you Nikonians on this site, I don't want endless emails, pm's and flamers bugging me!

Thanks,

Charles

[Jonathan]

Boy charles sounds interesting...i would be surprised if nikon didn't have something up there sleeve and i hope they do. On this note though I am going to have to switch to nikon again..i can't be known as normal...sheesh

[Charlemagne]

Like I said, It is good news for us Canon people also, look at the price they had the MkIII set for.. imagine if Nikon put out a FF, high FPS camera in a pro body.. at a decent price.. I am sure that MKIII price would come down a bit!!

Charles

[Rudi]

Ummm... what's a Nikon??? :D

Seriously, if Nikon are going the full-frame route (and I really hope they are, not because I want one, but because it will make my 5D replacement SO much better! :)), who are they buying their sensors from???

[Kevin]

Dang! I should've read through your entire post before I started my "Guess what Charlemagne said" post on dpr. First thing in the morning, I'm going to Subway and posting a sign there, too! :biglaugh:

[Charlemagne]

Dang! I should've read through your entire post before I started my "Guess what Charlemagne said" post on dpr. First thing in the morning, I'm going to Subway and posting a sign there, too! :biglaugh:

Bastard!!!:realmad: tapfoot; :death_2: :badmood: potty;

[bobber]

well sounds interesting...but..I dont think they will go FF. If anything I see them going to the cmos sensor in the d200, and a better processor. I think they are right staying with crop sensors,keeping the sweet spot...

[Rudi]

well sounds interesting...but..I dont think they will go FF. If anything I see them going to the cmos sensor in the d200, and a better processor. I think they are right staying with crop sensors,keeping the sweet spot...

Why??? Do Nikkors suck that much in the corners??? ;)

[Sheldon Bowles]

Remember folks, you read it right here on Pixel Shooters first!

Sounds possible to me Charles. Somewhere in the world, right now, some pro photographer has to be testing a new Nikon --- just as Canon likely has several cameras out there to see how they fare in the real world.

Nikon shooter, or Canon shooter, new cameras are always good news. They push the envelope.

[davespix]

I would love for Nikon to catch up, and save me money in lenses when I go to Canon next. I may keep both but they are worth not much in two years.
Canon Nikon Fugi pfff You get what you pay for. I wonder what Nikon has But then again wonder what Canon has and is holding for the next Nikon push.
Hmm nope I better have another drink.But I have heard rumblings of the same also.

[Rudi]

Let's be realistic here - despite the official Nikon marketing line, they would LOVE to bring out a full frame camera! There are no negatives to having a line-up with both a crop sensor line and a full frame model or two. And the only reason that they haven't got one yet is because they are more or less tied down by the fact that they have to buy their sensors from other suppliers.

I for one hope that the rumour is correct. There is nothing like a bit of competition to help improve the breed! :)

[MGlennn]

Hmmmmm.... rolleyes; I had to go up and look at the date you posted this to be sure it wasn't April 1 ...... ;) ;) ;) ;) Hope this happens ....and soon !! :cheer:

[Rudi]

See?? There's a market for a full frame Nikon body out there! :D

[Charlemagne]

okay everyone.. the plot thickens.. now that I have officially "bothered" my friend about this.. turns out he has some new lenses also.. the only info I am getting is that they are super light weight he says one is "very long" and "very light" he would not get more specific.. he also mentioned something about A LOT of new lenses.. what this means.. I have no clue, I don't know if he is toying with me, I know he might be reading this now.. I think he enjoys my questions and curiousity as a current Canon user and a Former Nikonian, but I still can't say for sure if he is just pulling my chain except for the "eye witness" account of my buddy "frankenstein".. so.. there you have it.. more intrugue.. I will probably talk more to him after Pascha is over.

Crazily yours,

Charles

[retief]

There has been a rumor of new lenses for a while now, numbers up to 15, and if the words "long and light" are in the same sentence, this would indicate NOT a full 35mm frame sensor, which is absolutely fine and dandy with me.

Gonna be an interesting next couple of months, I think, this is all giving me an awful lot to think about. Being a current Nikoneer, contemplating that 'other stuff", I am anxiously awaiting word on what direction Nikon is going next. I sure don't want to see another darned D40XYZ, that's for sure.

okay everyone.. the plot thickens.. now that I have officially "bothered" my friend about this.. turns out he has some new lenses also.. the only info I am getting is that they are super light weight he says one is "very long" and "very light" he would not get more specific.. he also mentioned something about A LOT of new lenses.. what this means.. I have no clue, I don't know if he is toying with me, I know he might be reading this now.. I think he enjoys my questions and curiousity as a current Canon user and a Former Nikonian, but I still can't say for sure if he is just pulling my chain except for the "eye witness" account of my buddy "frankenstein".. so.. there you have it.. more intrugue.. I will probably talk more to him after Pascha is over.

Crazily yours,

Charles

[bobber]

Why??? Do Nikkors suck that much in the corners??? ;)

NO rudi..the corners are just fine...I dont remember ever having to crop because the corners where bad. But I'll tell ya right now,since I switched to full frame,I have to be aware of my corners when composing,because now I do see corner problems popping up,but the nice thing is now being able to crop,and not having the file blow apart. I guess everyone looks for something different in there equiptment. Again Iam going to say,nikon just needs a better sensor and a better processor...and...if I was using a d2x instead of a d200...I might not have switched! Oh boy...bet I hear about this one...

[Kevin]

Allow me a slight deviation in topic for a moment....

Bobber, I'm interested to hear more about what you're saying. From what I've learned (on various forums) Nikkors always seem to be highly regarded on the wide end. When I shot Nikon, it was my belief that Canon's wide glass wasn't so hot.

I don't shoot wide but recently have been thinking hard about wide angle shooting and have decided to get a 12-24 to use on my 5D. I've been paying more attention to the wide angle discussion wrt Canon. What I'm finding out is a bit surprising, to me.

It seems that a lot of people complain about mushy corners on the 16-35 & 17-40. I've only briefly used the 17-40 but it was on the 30D so I have no direct experience with it. But lately, I've been running across more and more people who are sharing their experience both by story and by sample that's making me believe the "Canon's wide angle is mush" theory isn't quite right.

As I try to make an educated decision about some focal length I try to be objective and separate the wheat from the chaff. That "separating" skill is one that has become honed fairly well over the years by reading dpr. What I had accepted as gospel truth in the past I'm beginning to re-evaluate based on some of the samples I've seen recently.

So, one of the questions I ask myself is "Why are some of these people having this issue (mushiness) and some aren't?" It's either technique or poor sample quality. I don't know the answer. But when I read your comment about the corners being problematic (not necessarily mushy) it got me to thinking about this. I know with Nikon, due to the sensor size, corner issue isn't as prevalent.

You may or may not know but I shot with a D2X before moving over to Canon. I'm not sure it would've caused you not to change because I don't really recall the reasons that you switched. For me, it just didn't perform in a few specific areas that I needed it to.

[bobber]

It's either technique ...I think you hit the nail right on the head! Iam beginning to think that most of the comments I read are from people that have never shot film,or shot alittle,sent there film in,and boom,they have a good print. But...they dont know what the lab had to do to get them a good print,in most cases Iam sure they had to do alot of work on it to get it. Iam far from an expert,and still new to digital,but I do feel this format is heads above the old film cameras. Correct me if Iam wrong here,but I see alot tring to shoot wide open,pushing iso to there limits and saying...boy is this mushy...no shit! Now adays there putting all the problem on the equiptment,and not so..it goes back to technique...add more light...choose the right lens for the application...compose better...as you know the camera and the eye dont see the same thing...I would think learning what the camera sees and how it see's it, and how can I improve my technique to get better results,is better time spent!...now after I've said all that...it still boils down to what fits your needs for you style of shooting..there has been some awsome images posted here with a cheap point and shoot...gee..maybe its technique...or just plain luck...what do ya think?

[paul weston]

Quit teasing me!!

paul.

[Rudi]

Lens shortcomings have always been there, even with film. Using only the center of the lens image circle is an option even with full frame (cropping), but to call this a "feature" on a crop sensor camera is a stretch! This "feature" only came about because of the exorbitant cost a full frame sensor would have entailed in the early days of digital (it wasn't even possible in the earliest days).

Now, all lenses will have some shortcomings, and most lenses are better in the centre than around the edges, but working around those shortcomings is just one of the skills that makes a photographer! And sure, there are times when cropping a full-frame image might make sense, but no one is going to convince me that Nikon, Pentax and others would not jump at the chance to put a full frame sensor into one of their camera models, if it was available. :)

[stilllearning]

I will be interested see if they have a new pro body this year. I put off going after the D2Xs this spring and settled for redesigning our family room instead. I wouldn't mind a FF with a 1.5 High speed crop like the D2Xs 2X crop. All of my glass is FF so I'm ready. Now if only the price will be reasonable.:biggrin: